Is the modern Liberal a narcissist?

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Is the modern Liberal a narcissist?

Postby Fred75 on Fri Aug 15, 2008 1:29 pm

Is the modern Liberal a narcissist?

Are they people that reject anything higher than themselves?

And do they have nowhere outside themselves to look for the truth?

I ask this because I see it a lot here. Especially when the Liberals here completely ignore the facts.
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Re: Is the modern Liberal a narcissist?

Postby ILWL on Fri Aug 15, 2008 2:22 pm

Fred75 wrote:Is the modern Liberal a narcissist?

Are they people that reject anything higher than themselves?

And do they have nowhere outside themselves to look for the truth?

I ask this because I see it a lot here. Especially when the Liberals here completely ignore the facts.


A fact tends to be either merely what someone else has said or a lazy way to win an argument.
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On concrete fields where grows no grass
He stumbles blindly on
Iron trees smother the air
Withering they stand and stare
Through eyes that neither know nor care
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Re: Is the modern Liberal a narcissist?

Postby Fred75 on Fri Aug 15, 2008 2:33 pm

ILWL wrote:
Fred75 wrote:Is the modern Liberal a narcissist?

Are they people that reject anything higher than themselves?

And do they have nowhere outside themselves to look for the truth?


I ask this because I see it a lot here. Especially when the Liberals here completely ignore the facts.


A fact tends to be either merely what someone else has said or a lazy way to win an argument.


I rest my case.
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Postby Gibbous Moon on Fri Aug 15, 2008 2:48 pm

Damn those Liberals.

I prefer daffodils myself.


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Re: Is the modern Liberal a narcissist?

Postby ILWL on Fri Aug 15, 2008 2:51 pm

Fred75 wrote:
ILWL wrote:
Fred75 wrote:Is the modern Liberal a narcissist?

Are they people that reject anything higher than themselves?

And do they have nowhere outside themselves to look for the truth?


I ask this because I see it a lot here. Especially when the Liberals here completely ignore the facts.


A fact tends to be either merely what someone else has said or a lazy way to win an argument.


I rest my case.


.....bout time you bleeding shut it! :lol:
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Re: Is the modern Liberal a narcissist?

Postby Fred75 on Fri Aug 15, 2008 9:10 pm

ILWL wrote:
Fred75 wrote:
ILWL wrote:
Fred75 wrote:Is the modern Liberal a narcissist?

Are they people that reject anything higher than themselves?

And do they have nowhere outside themselves to look for the truth?


I ask this because I see it a lot here. Especially when the Liberals here completely ignore the facts.


A fact tends to be either merely what someone else has said or a lazy way to win an argument.


I rest my case.


.....bout time you bleeding shut it! :lol:
:roll:
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Postby The Colonel on Fri Aug 15, 2008 11:42 pm

Facts?

I doubt your claims of education.

I have told you now many times to read the following:

Max Weber (1919) Politics as a Vocation,
Max Weber (1919) Science as a Vocation,
Alfred Kinsey (1948) Sexual Behavior in the Human Male,
Alfred Kinsey (1953) Sexual Behavior in the Human Female.

Now WHY have you failed to do this?

WHY are you STILL REPEATING THE SAME THINGS without READING THEM?

If you read Weber (No. 2 on my list) you'd see that:

- Facts RARELY speak for themselves,
- So called "facts" are not facts, since they have to be explained by a theory,
- This INTERPRETATION is not a fact.

Let's take an example - CRIME.

Some will take statistical data, and to make sense of it present the following theories:

Crime as a result of gender,
Crime as a result of genetics,
Crime as a result of other biological (e.g. PMS)
Crime as result of social class,
Crime as a result of race/ethnicity,
Crime as a result of economic wealth,
Crime as a result of family structure,
Crime as a mental disorder (for a "kick")
Crime as a matter of individual responsibility and subculture.

See how numerous they are.

Just because one of these theories says (for example) "If you are black you are more likely to be a criminal, supported by this data which shows that 55% of inmates are black" - is bollocks. It CLEARLY cannot be down to skin colour ALONE.

THAT IS NOT A FACT. IT IS AN INTERPRETATION.

INTERPRETATIONS ARE OPEN TO BIAS - AND CAN BE USED TO SATISFY A PREJUDICE.

Fred does this ALL the time with his "facts".

Well Fred - it is about time you seriously WOKE UP. You aren't reading FACTS. You are reading INTERPRETATIONS. And they are potentially DANGEROUS.

NOW F****** WAKE UP.

AND F****** WELL READ THE b***** BOOKS.
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Postby Fred75 on Sat Aug 16, 2008 7:56 pm

The Colonel wrote:Facts?

I doubt your claims of education. What claim?
I have told you now many times to read the following:

Max Weber (1919) Politics as a Vocation,
Max Weber (1919) Science as a Vocation,
Alfred Kinsey (1948) Sexual Behavior in the Human Male,
Alfred Kinsey (1953) Sexual Behavior in the Human Female.
Why do I need to read OUTDATED liberal propaganda?
Do like i do and get FACTS from accredited sources like the CDC and NHS.


Now WHY have you failed to do this?
Because I agree with your government that you are irrelevant and incapable if good judgment.
Which of course means your incapable of judging the merits of anything.


WHY are you STILL REPEATING THE SAME THINGS without READING THEM?

If you read Weber (No. 2 on my list) you'd see that:

- Facts RARELY speak for themselves,
- So called "facts" are not facts, since they have to be explained by a theory,
- This INTERPRETATION is not a fact.

Let's take an example - CRIME.

Some will take statistical data, and to make sense of it present the following theories:

Crime as a result of gender,
Crime as a result of genetics,
Crime as a result of other biological (e.g. PMS)
Crime as result of social class,
Crime as a result of race/ethnicity,
Crime as a result of economic wealth,
Crime as a result of family structure,
Crime as a mental disorder (for a "kick")
Crime as a matter of individual responsibility and subculture.

See how numerous they are.

Just because one of these theories says (for example) "If you are black you are more likely to be a criminal, supported by this data which shows that 55% of inmates are black" - is bollocks. It CLEARLY cannot be down to skin colour ALONE.
It probably has more to do with the fact that 75% of black children are born with no father in the house.

THAT IS NOT A FACT. IT IS AN INTERPRETATION.

INTERPRETATIONS ARE OPEN TO BIAS - AND CAN BE USED TO SATISFY A PREJUDICE.

Fred does this ALL the time with his "facts".

Well Fred - it is about time you seriously WOKE UP. You aren't reading FACTS. You are reading INTERPRETATIONS. And they are potentially DANGEROUS.

NOW F****** WAKE UP.

AND F****** WELL READ THE b***** BOOKS.
"We cannot continue to rely only on our military in order to achieve the national security objectives that we've set. We've got to have a civilian national security force that's just as powerful, just as strong, just as well funded." Obama.

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Re: Is the modern Liberal a narcissist?

Postby Cambridge on Sun Aug 17, 2008 6:17 am

Fred75 wrote:[b]Is the modern Liberal a narcissist?

Are they people that reject anything higher than themselves?


Um, there is nothing higher than a liberal. :whistle:

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Re: Is the modern Liberal a narcissist?

Postby Ivan Diederhoff on Sun Aug 17, 2008 6:31 am

Fred75 wrote:Is the modern Liberal a narcissist?

I don't think so. I never look in the mirror more than 20 times in a day.

Are they people that reject anything higher than themselves?

I commonly reject dopers. I want my women sober!

And do they have nowhere outside themselves to look for the truth?

I have my own brand of bullshit I am quite comfortable with!

I ask this because I see it a lot here. Especially when the Liberals here completely ignore the facts.


Yet you keep coming back for more. You must be a glutton for punishment. Oops, no, gluttony is one of the deadly sins, and conservatives don't sin! :lol: :laff:

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